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but for the last 2 1/2 years, it has gotten steadily better in the sense that jobs have grown every year. every month. >> and sam, when you talk to the obama campaign, the particular way they see the voters who are going to side with them, or at least a lot of them practically swing voters, is what they believe, as alice said, we have a very deep hole to dig out of. we're not there but we're doing as good as we can expect to be doing. and there's been there important psychological barrier of 8%. does getting underneath that barrier to 7.8% really do much for president obama's talking point, that we have come a long way and now voters should let him finish the job, or do these kind of changes in numbers matter in washington but they're not what voters see around them so they're kind of a story here but not actually in the campaign. >> first of all i'm glad you asked alice the economic question and left me with the political stuff. she's much more better equipped to do that. i think it's a psychological motivator for a lot of people, especially for the campaign itself. we did a video mash
but for the last 2 1/2 years, it has gotten steadily better in the sense that jobs have grown every year. every month. >> and sam, when you talk to the obama campaign, the particular way they see the voters who are going to side with them, or at least a lot of them practically swing voters, is what they believe, as alice said, we have a very deep hole to dig out of. we're not there but we're doing as good as we can expect to be doing. and there's been there important psychological barrier...
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that's what journalists have been trying to hide for years. it's a glimpse into the mind of the real barack obama and it's one that all americans need to pay close attention to. >> that was fox news tonight. "huffington post" released tape of echoing the remarks about 47% of the country not taking responsible for their lives. paul ryan's remarks were that it was 30% of the country. they do not believe in the american dream and just believe. tucker carlson played at the time it came out, but they are newly excited about in part, as best i can tell, because president obama gives a shout out to his chicago pastor at the time jeremiah wright. do either require as a first debate eve giant up-end the campaign surprise? joining us is steve smith. he's now an msnbc contributor. thank you for being here. big deal? >> probably not. it's old news. this is well-covered ground. and there's nothing in the speech that seems to me on the surface that's going to reset anything in the race. what it will do is create a conversation in conservative media about th
that's what journalists have been trying to hide for years. it's a glimpse into the mind of the real barack obama and it's one that all americans need to pay close attention to. >> that was fox news tonight. "huffington post" released tape of echoing the remarks about 47% of the country not taking responsible for their lives. paul ryan's remarks were that it was 30% of the country. they do not believe in the american dream and just believe. tucker carlson played at the time it...
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obama care is on my list. i use that term with all respect. >> i like it. >> the difference in the debate demeanor is most evident at the end during the closing statements. >> you know, four years ago we were going through a major crisis. and yet my faith and confidence in the american future is undiminished. four years ago i said i'm not a perfect man and wouldn't be a perfect president. that's a promise governor romney thinks i kept. i also promised that i would fight every single day on behalf of the american people. >> romney, a much crisper closing. >> kbrn this is bigger than an election about the two of us as individuals. it's bigger than our respective parties. it's an election about the course of america. i will keep america strong and get america's middle class working again. >> romney had a bounce in his step post debate. it looked like a genuine moment on stage. romney lingered after the president left and parted with a triumphant wave. got a rousing response from relieved partisans. if romney's go
obama care is on my list. i use that term with all respect. >> i like it. >> the difference in the debate demeanor is most evident at the end during the closing statements. >> you know, four years ago we were going through a major crisis. and yet my faith and confidence in the american future is undiminished. four years ago i said i'm not a perfect man and wouldn't be a perfect president. that's a promise governor romney thinks i kept. i also promised that i would fight every...
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but he wasn't the barack obama we've got tonight know over the last four years who is a realist about the challenges facing the country, but he's not a pessimist about those challenges. struck me last night, he might have not been pessimistic in the language he used but his body language was very kind of grim, which is not what people are looking for. the president and his team know this, not what people are looking for in a leader. >> well, let's ask chuck todd who has just rejoined us by phone, whether the president regained his mojo today. what was his performance like at that rally in denver? >> it's like if you've ever gotten into a debate or argument and you lost and then you thought of all of these great comebacks and you came up the next day, that's what it sounded like today. i mean literally he even had remember the account line last night at the debate, mitt romney starts talking about an accountant, you saw the president's eyebrows raised dur the cutaway shot. here he said i think mitt romney had an accountant comeback. all of a sudden what you heard from the president tod
but he wasn't the barack obama we've got tonight know over the last four years who is a realist about the challenges facing the country, but he's not a pessimist about those challenges. struck me last night, he might have not been pessimistic in the language he used but his body language was very kind of grim, which is not what people are looking for. the president and his team know this, not what people are looking for in a leader. >> well, let's ask chuck todd who has just rejoined us...
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where we've been as a country over the past four years. and what a second term obama administration would look like. and what it would do for middle class americans all over this country. i think we achieved that. i think what we didn't expect is for that mitt romney to show up. i know mitt romney is an aggressive debater, a great debater, in his own words. was one of the things he used as a credential to becoming the republican nominee. we didn't expect him to be aggressively dishonest last night. >> was the president taken by the number of lies? >> well, you know, i think that, you know, today looking back at last night, you saw what the president did on the stump today. called mitt romney out for what he did last night. not just about his $5 trillion tax cut but a number of other things. and, you know, we'll continue doing that. as i was listening to your piece coming into me, and you talked about our ad. we went on the air today. we're going to continue doing it pointing out all the things mitt romney said last night that are basically
where we've been as a country over the past four years. and what a second term obama administration would look like. and what it would do for middle class americans all over this country. i think we achieved that. i think what we didn't expect is for that mitt romney to show up. i know mitt romney is an aggressive debater, a great debater, in his own words. was one of the things he used as a credential to becoming the republican nominee. we didn't expect him to be aggressively dishonest last...
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this year, he's fought early voting hours and block weekend voting and fire election officials who disagreed with him. but on friday husted suffered a big setback. early voting was restored for three days before election day. husted is now reviewing his legal options. but voting suppression isn't just happening in republican legislatures. it's also happening in the street at polling stations. so there's an investigation into voter intimidation. more on that coming up. playing ] dd couple humans. even when we cross our "t"s and dot our "i"s, we still run into problems -- mainly other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates won't go up due to your first accident, and new car replacement, where if you total your new car, we give you the money for a new one. call... to talk to an insurance expert about everything else that comes standard with our base auto policy. [ tires squeal ] and if you get into an accident and use one of our certified repair shops, your repairs are guaranteed for life.
this year, he's fought early voting hours and block weekend voting and fire election officials who disagreed with him. but on friday husted suffered a big setback. early voting was restored for three days before election day. husted is now reviewing his legal options. but voting suppression isn't just happening in republican legislatures. it's also happening in the street at polling stations. so there's an investigation into voter intimidation. more on that coming up. playing ] dd couple...
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difference is that the obama years haven't improved that much now, have they? >> the obama years are pretty -- we didn't go into a great depression -- >> this is what voters are deciding. it was worse under w. but it's not good enough better -- you didn't clean up the bush mess welloff. thank you. that's the argument. you would think the obama campaign would want to start looking forward toward the vp debate this week and the two remaining presidential debates. today the obama camp released this ad going back to romney's line about big bird. this i think is mickey mouse but let's take a look. >> bernie madoff, ken lay, dennis kozlowski, criminals, gluttons of greed and the evil genius who towered over them. one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird, big bird, big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> big, yellow, a menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it's sesame street. >> i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney taking oun our enemies no malter where they nest. >> please, god, just for a minute
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it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that debate the gravitas of being the president of the united states facing off against some non-president who wants their job. that only happens once per president. and these are the only times that has happened on tv in our nation's history. that's it. and this is the situation that president obama found himself in last night. it's only happened six other times in american history. so how did he do in historical context? there isn't that much historical context, right? like, this is a very knowable thing. honestly, that first one, that first one in 1976 where incumbent president gerald ford faced off against challenger jimmy carter, honestly, this one shouldn't even really count as part of the context like the rest of them because this one
it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that debate the gravitas of being the president of the united states facing off against some non-president who wants their job. that only happens once per president. and these are the only times that has...
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throughout this election year we've watched president obama and governor romney's campaigns carefully craft a message on who exactly their candidate is and what makes them tick. well, a pbs frontline documentary airing tonight is breaking through the talking points to find out what made these two presidential candidates the men they are in the words of their friends, family, enemies, and the reporters who have covered them. let's watch. >> he is a pragmatic business person. he's a guy who likes to take apart a problem and figure out how to get it fixed. >> barack obama is a fascinating mixture of boldness and caution but then once he makes a decision, it's usually the bold one. >> mitt romney has been accused of flip-flopping, but on mormonism he will never flip-flop. >> and yet in politics he has often tried to keep that part of him behind the curtain. >> the backlash against his presidency must be mystifying to him because he genuinely doesn't see himself as a radical. >> well, with us right now is michael kirk producer of "frontline: the choice 2012." congratulations it will be fab
throughout this election year we've watched president obama and governor romney's campaigns carefully craft a message on who exactly their candidate is and what makes them tick. well, a pbs frontline documentary airing tonight is breaking through the talking points to find out what made these two presidential candidates the men they are in the words of their friends, family, enemies, and the reporters who have covered them. let's watch. >> he is a pragmatic business person. he's a guy who...
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although it did mark the first time all year obama's seen something get passed. very interesting. >> tonight jimmy welcomes funny man martin short, actor logan and a musical guest. that's at 12:35, 11:35 central time on your local nbc station. >>> tmz is reporting a trouble on the set of "american idol." we knew this was coming, right? >> is it set up, though? is it real. >> we shall see. new judge nikcki minaj threatend to knock out mariah carey over a disagreement on a contestant. she said she's not going to put up with her highness. we cleaned that up for tv. >>> the sing he's of the best-selling duet in pop music history, "you're the one that i want" will be reuniting. they have a holiday album coming out. proceeds go to charity. >>> liam neeson bared all on "ellen" tuesday. he stripped down to hot, hot pink underwear, sat in a dunk tank chamber and got soaked by an audience member and raised $20,000 for breast cancer research. looking good, liam. >> good for him. >>> and sy is saying he will do the gangnam style topless if it reaches number one. can we all k
although it did mark the first time all year obama's seen something get passed. very interesting. >> tonight jimmy welcomes funny man martin short, actor logan and a musical guest. that's at 12:35, 11:35 central time on your local nbc station. >>> tmz is reporting a trouble on the set of "american idol." we knew this was coming, right? >> is it set up, though? is it real. >> we shall see. new judge nikcki minaj threatend to knock out mariah carey over a...
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obama 2-1. >> the numbers you would think would be daunting. more people think they are worse off four years ago than they were today. the president maintains his lead overall. you would think that would help mitt romney. >> you would think it is. it probably does to an extent. one of the problems mr. romney has is that voters just don't like him very much. we asked voters if they have a favorable, unfavorable of the president. they have a net unfavorable of the president and unfavorable for mitt romney. >> pollsters have been under fire from the right. >> you know it's a piece of garbage. i believe it's head to head in new hampshire. i've seen enough other polls to tell you that is a piece of garbage. >> calling it garbage. governor sununu wasn't talking about one of your polls, but one in new hampshire. how do you fight against kill the messenger? is this different than the past? >> it's not all that different. quinnipiac and most major polls do not weight their polls for party i.d. if someone passes our voter screen, they pass our likely vot
obama 2-1. >> the numbers you would think would be daunting. more people think they are worse off four years ago than they were today. the president maintains his lead overall. you would think that would help mitt romney. >> you would think it is. it probably does to an extent. one of the problems mr. romney has is that voters just don't like him very much. we asked voters if they have a favorable, unfavorable of the president. they have a net unfavorable of the president and...
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he's a 40-year veteran, and he's going to be a capable debater. when joe biden was debating in '87 and '88 when he ran for president the first time, paul ryan was in high school. so there's going to be, i think, a fascinating age gap there on that stage. joe biden is not somebody that's going to come out there and sort of stumble around. it's possible he could commit a gaffe, but the ryan folks that i talked to are getting ready for, you know, the chairman of the foreign relations committee, not the gaffe-prone sort of lampooned joe biden. >> do you think they might take a stick at him and taunt him? even little ryan doing that, like how is neil kinnock doing, speaking of the '87 race? your thoughts, joan? can you gig him? >> i doubt it. that's a little dangerous. the vice president's gaffes when he makes them tends to come before really friendly crowds where he gets excited and -- they don't come on the debating stage. he's got great mastery of the facts, and he's also got -- you know, he's got a winning personality. certainly anything can happen
he's a 40-year veteran, and he's going to be a capable debater. when joe biden was debating in '87 and '88 when he ran for president the first time, paul ryan was in high school. so there's going to be, i think, a fascinating age gap there on that stage. joe biden is not somebody that's going to come out there and sort of stumble around. it's possible he could commit a gaffe, but the ryan folks that i talked to are getting ready for, you know, the chairman of the foreign relations committee,...
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so obviously a lot of tonight is going to be about president obama's record, just since four years ago president obama was looking back at the record of those he wanted to replace. >>ormer republican governor out here. thanks for coming on this. >>> the monthly private payrolls report is out today. markets are just opening. let's get to the market run down. becky quick is here on the other side of the camera. >> i like this. >> private payroll, adp. mid 100s. does it tell us anything? >> 162 is better than the street has been expecting. adp does payrolls for a lot of private sector companies. they have a pretty good idea of what is happening because they do so many different companies. 162 a little better than expected. sometimes it is dead on for what we can expect on friday from the jobs report which takes a look at government jobs. sometimes it's way off. that is what happened last month when they had 201,000 for adps numbers and then the jobs numbers was only 96. today the markets are indicating a little higher. stocks opening up about 25 points for the dow. the big number is frida
so obviously a lot of tonight is going to be about president obama's record, just since four years ago president obama was looking back at the record of those he wanted to replace. >>ormer republican governor out here. thanks for coming on this. >>> the monthly private payrolls report is out today. markets are just opening. let's get to the market run down. becky quick is here on the other side of the camera. >> i like this. >> private payroll, adp. mid 100s. does it...
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it's been a bad four years for president obama. but the next debate is not going to be a presidential debate. it will be a vice presidential debate and the pressure is on joe biden to live up to his reputation this week as a policy expert and as a skilled debater, but i expect he'll do just fine. this will be his 18th either presidential or vice presidential debate. he's had a lot of practice at it. paul ryan's first. but again, in that case, we think we have the facts and the issues on our side with the obama/biden team you'll get another four years like the last four years with the romney/ryan team, a real recovery with more jobs for everybody. >> now politico is reporting today that ann romney and tagg his son, one of his sons did an intervention to try to save the campaign if you will and let mitt be mitt and get the candidate to talk more about himself, talk more emotionally to give the foreign policy speech. in pushing back against some of the staff. can you help us out on that? what is the -- your perspective about it? >> i
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it's been four years with obama. how many years do you have to have of him before you make up your mind. there's a lot of information out there. how do you folks get yours? >> jess, why don't you take. >> definitely, i try to -- in today's society i get most of minus through the internet so i typically look at bbc, "new york times", "washington post" -- >> but you still don't think you have enough information? >> there's a lot of information out there and i think most of us agree that really, they've both got good ideas and great candidates but what it comes down to is, which plan the is better for america. ultimately, i'm leaning towards romney but there's still a couple more debates left and -- >> keira you said you don't have enough information. you're a kindergarten teacher here in the denver area. not enough information? there's so much out there. we've been campaigning for a year. >> finding the information that youch can connect with and the information that you can and i'm still looking for that. >> chris, wh
it's been four years with obama. how many years do you have to have of him before you make up your mind. there's a lot of information out there. how do you folks get yours? >> jess, why don't you take. >> definitely, i try to -- in today's society i get most of minus through the internet so i typically look at bbc, "new york times", "washington post" -- >> but you still don't think you have enough information? >> there's a lot of information out there...
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trillion over ten years. true? >> not in the least bit true. look, this just goes to show if you tore tour statistics enough they'll confess to what you want them to confess to. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. it's -- >> no. i'm just talking about the cuts. we'll get to the deductions. the cut in tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all american tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away the deductions. we're going to get to that. >> lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. and you can -- >> but you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> what's your response to that answer, steve, just the whole series of back and forth there? >> i think that really that's the wrong argument to have if you're paul ryan. >> what do you mean that's the wrong argument? he's the numbers guy. he's the fiscal responsible face of the repu
trillion over ten years. true? >> not in the least bit true. look, this just goes to show if you tore tour statistics enough they'll confess to what you want them to confess to. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. it's -- >> no. i'm just talking about the cuts. we'll get to the deductions. the cut in tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all american tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >>...
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they are going to turn agast him to make sure president obama isot reelected. you goto admit looks pretty strong in thpolls, some of these billioires are beginning whine a little bit. they d't le the environment what's happening. here's sam z >> how the, quote, 1% or t 10%, the top earners mov ahead of everydy. i wonder i coation between while they were mg ahead, the rest of the govement wassidizing, bsidizing more m people. i inthey are disinnte vised byf you dot pay fo that's thing you dot ve to worr about. >> he sounds le he could b sittinat mitt ey his disdain of the 47% is the same as mitt romy' he'sot the only algart complaining. leon cooperman, this hedge fund manager and former obama suorter, sd this, you know, the largest and greatest country in t free world put a 47-year-old guy at nev made himarge of the free and rld. not totay different from taking adolph hier in germany d ng him in charge of germany because people were is absolutely ssatisfied. pulsive. what arese billionaire upt about? the stk market is up or 100% since 2009. corporate profits ara
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night doesn't want to be held accountable for the last year. we don't want what he has been selling over the last year. he may dance around his positions and may do a tap dance and a two step, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. [ applause ] >> alex wagner please, help me get the image of mitt romney dancing out of my mind. >> i will say this. there has been a flush of him since the debate. but i don't know how excited the conservative base is going to be in the long run as we unpack the positions that mitt romney has newly adopted as embracing parts of obamacare. maybe pell grants aren't such a bad idea. they know they are very, very rested. it will be interesting to see if the get it in the next couple of weeks. >> the president is saying you can't trust him no matter what he says, you don't know what he is going to say tomorrow. >> yes, and that is a new line of attack. and in fact it is something that they laid the ground work on last night. i think the jury is out on this. the idea that he is not pr
night doesn't want to be held accountable for the last year. we don't want what he has been selling over the last year. he may dance around his positions and may do a tap dance and a two step, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. [ applause ] >> alex wagner please, help me get the image of mitt romney dancing out of my mind. >> i will say this. there has been a flush of him since the debate. but i don't know how excited the conservative base...
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less than a year later, president obama cut ties with mr. wright after clips came out of the pastor's racially charged sermons. the obama campaign released a statement last night, calling the video a, quote, transparent attempt to change the subject ahead of the debate. the romney campaign distanced itself from the video saying it had no involvement with the release. paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/0 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30%en watt their welfare state. what that tells us is a
less than a year later, president obama cut ties with mr. wright after clips came out of the pastor's racially charged sermons. the obama campaign released a statement last night, calling the video a, quote, transparent attempt to change the subject ahead of the debate. the romney campaign distanced itself from the video saying it had no involvement with the release. paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long...
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mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> are you better off than you were four years ago? >> senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough, hillary. >> thank you. >> likable enough. and that was a moment in new hampshire. some game changing moments from debates past and present and could tomorrow night's debate produce anything as memorable. one thing important, ruth, john, we've lived through these debate moments but they're not all game changers. arguably some of those moments like lloyd bentsen and dan quayle didn't change anything because michael dukakis in the final presidential debate showed sort of a remarkable lack of human affect you might say in response to bernie schultz question. >> that didn't help
mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> are you better off than you were four years ago? >> senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough,...
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we have seen obama recently in a higher position than he's been in all year, maybe higher than you would expect based on where the economy is. so i do think romney should have a tail wind at the same time the stuff we're mentioning where he also has tried to avoid articulating where his positions are on a lot of issues, a lot that is common sense but if you take positions further away from the center that damages you and he's not done a lot of running to the center at all in this campaign. that's unusual and he'll be proebds for more detail during the debate. >> the american public or people are crying out for the etch a sketch moment. joy, in terms of managing expectations, the guy that has managed them in his own fashion is chris christie. i want to play a little chris christie sound doubling down on the fact that this is a big deal tomorrow night for mitt romney. >> this whole race will be turned upside down thursday morning. >> what are you doing, christie? for god sake's if romney fails to meet those heavy expectations he's going to lose the general election and the republican party
we have seen obama recently in a higher position than he's been in all year, maybe higher than you would expect based on where the economy is. so i do think romney should have a tail wind at the same time the stuff we're mentioning where he also has tried to avoid articulating where his positions are on a lot of issues, a lot that is common sense but if you take positions further away from the center that damages you and he's not done a lot of running to the center at all in this campaign....
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i'm not giving up the if the lies and propaganda of the last four years work after obama fought back solidly against them. then reality-based government is over in the can you understand again and we're back to bush cheney but more extreme. it's one debate, but it was one debate with 70 million more people, more eyes on that debate than any speech that we could carry on all of cable neuews combined, then any radio program or twitter account could get. >> it is one debate that was heavily tuned in. perhaps the second presidential debate maybe double. nevertheless it's not just one debate. >> it's one debate that is very visible but a different mitt romney shows up. obama just let that happen. mitt romney showed up and he seemed like an energetic guy to fix things. obama showed up and looked tired and listless and he didn't challenge mitt romney on his extreme positions or on the extreme positions of the republican party including his running mate. >> i always lover yo your insig. we're past the debate but still at that same conversation even with democrats still talking about the deba
i'm not giving up the if the lies and propaganda of the last four years work after obama fought back solidly against them. then reality-based government is over in the can you understand again and we're back to bush cheney but more extreme. it's one debate, but it was one debate with 70 million more people, more eyes on that debate than any speech that we could carry on all of cable neuews combined, then any radio program or twitter account could get. >> it is one debate that was heavily...
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the initial result for two years awarded with declining obama approval writing, awarding with huge windfall in the midterms. it made conservatives think the rest of the country is coming to our side u in rating, the midterms explained by how bad the economy was and what we are seeing now, as the economy starts to improve a bit, most americans actually like obama, cheering for him this stuff really seems off note, i think, to the average american. >> owe mama is a divisive figure, constantly pitting one america against the other. in 2007, it was black america against a white government. and knew that he essentially is the government, he is taking that same kind of tactic and he is pitting poor america against wealthy america. the problem with this is that there are actually aggrieved groups, legitimate arguments to be made that the government has neg lengtd the concerns of black america, that our economy has not sufficiently addressed poverty, but you don't put agrieved groups and pit them against one another. that is not what a truly transcendent leader does it is petty, it's small minded,
the initial result for two years awarded with declining obama approval writing, awarding with huge windfall in the midterms. it made conservatives think the rest of the country is coming to our side u in rating, the midterms explained by how bad the economy was and what we are seeing now, as the economy starts to improve a bit, most americans actually like obama, cheering for him this stuff really seems off note, i think, to the average american. >> owe mama is a divisive figure,...
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the first time president obama and mitt romney have met in person in five years. tonight of course, they will share the stage in denver. a coin toss decided the order. president obama speaks first, mitt romney will have the last word. romney ran the gauntlet during the primary. he did 23 debates. the president has practiced five mock debates before tonight and it's not too late to convince voters, there's a new poll, florida and virginia virtually tied. in ohio, the president has a comfortable seven-point lead. last night, conservatives started circulating this video. a 2007 speech that then senator obama gave at hampton university, criticizing the federal response to hurricane katrina. >> people ask me whether they thought race was the reason the response was so slow. well, no, this information was color blind in its incompetence. >> in north carolina, joe biden went off script and said the middle class has been buried the last four years. this morning, they've turned a clip into a web video. >> the middle class in america is hurting. >> middle class has been bur
the first time president obama and mitt romney have met in person in five years. tonight of course, they will share the stage in denver. a coin toss decided the order. president obama speaks first, mitt romney will have the last word. romney ran the gauntlet during the primary. he did 23 debates. the president has practiced five mock debates before tonight and it's not too late to convince voters, there's a new poll, florida and virginia virtually tied. in ohio, the president has a comfortable...
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trillion over ten years. true? >> not in the least bit true. look, this just goes to show if you torture statistics enough, they'll confess to what you want them to confess to. >> how much does it cost? >> it's neutral. >> we'll get to the deductions. the cut in tax rates. >> lowers all americans tax rates. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless it takes away -- >> lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base -- >> you haven't given me the math? >> it would take me too long to go through all the math. >>> in massachusetts tonight, senator scott brown and his democratic challenge elizabeth warren face off in the second of four debates for that u.s. senate seat up there. david gregory will moderate it comes as new boston globe poll shows warren inching slightly ahead, 43% to 38%. still 18% of voters remain undecided there. the same poll conducted in may gave senator brown a two-point lead. >>> still ahead on "way too early," wow were the new york jets bad yester
trillion over ten years. true? >> not in the least bit true. look, this just goes to show if you torture statistics enough, they'll confess to what you want them to confess to. >> how much does it cost? >> it's neutral. >> we'll get to the deductions. the cut in tax rates. >> lowers all americans tax rates. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless it takes away -- >> lowering tax rates by...
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you learned to argue really well and make your points years ago. >> michelle obama and ann romney with advice for their husbands. the first lady will campaign for her husband this afternoon in nevada. meantime, ann romney campaigned in the state yesterday where she tried to appeal to women voters. that as our battleground state polling shows today that president obama has lost support. just three points down from 12 last month. however, the president still holds formidable leads among women voters in ohio and virginia. joining me now -- the sight of tonight's debate. it's great to have you here. showing president obama losing support with women voters. why do you think that might be the the case there? >> i think that women voters are looking at mitt romney's policies and they're realizing that they're not good for women. economic policies. the health care policies. family planning. in florida, of course, medicare's a big issue. women really want to look at candidates that are going to support issues that help women and families and that's what's going on. i think in florida and around
you learned to argue really well and make your points years ago. >> michelle obama and ann romney with advice for their husbands. the first lady will campaign for her husband this afternoon in nevada. meantime, ann romney campaigned in the state yesterday where she tried to appeal to women voters. that as our battleground state polling shows today that president obama has lost support. just three points down from 12 last month. however, the president still holds formidable leads among...
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mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> two years ago the tea party rolled into washington, confident, they were pushing their far right agenda. they strutted. they bragged. they acted like they owned the joint. well, guess what? they're singing a different tune now. in fact, they're trying to hide. in a debate last night, eric cantor ran away from his own record on budget sequester, which cuts over $1 trillion from defense. >> i keep saying i support a sequester, as he knows good and well that's not true. he knows that the president insisted of its insertion into the debt ceiling deal. >> blaming the president for something he supported? here's proof. right there in black and white. and 173 other republicans voted for it with him. including paul ryan. which makes this even more ridiculous than he ran from his past, saying this -- >> we would not gut our military because when you g
mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> two years ago the tea party rolled into washington, confident, they were pushing their far right agenda. they strutted. they bragged. they acted like they owned the joint. well, guess what? they're singing a different tune now. in fact, they're trying to hide. in a debate last night, eric...
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. >> we watched president obama for 3 hchl years. i don't think he's governed in a race this way at all. i think that was going to be an issue. should have been an issue in '08. does anyone think president obama is more towards one race? i don't think so. >> roger rails would like to see you in his office. joining us right now, let's get to our panel here in denver, mike shira, "time" magazine, white house correspondent, who has the cover story in this week's issue. john harwood, cnbc chief white house correspondent, and holding it down in new york city, msnbc political analyst karen finney. john, are you there in the spin room. as you know, the spinning begins before either candidate has spoken. we've seen both parties attempt to deflate expectations. but isn't the biggest challenge for mitt romney, not what he plans to say tonight, but how he explains what he's already said, in particular, his derision for 47% of the people in this country? >> reporter: certainly, martin, he's going to have to address that and try to diffuse that i
. >> we watched president obama for 3 hchl years. i don't think he's governed in a race this way at all. i think that was going to be an issue. should have been an issue in '08. does anyone think president obama is more towards one race? i don't think so. >> roger rails would like to see you in his office. joining us right now, let's get to our panel here in denver, mike shira, "time" magazine, white house correspondent, who has the cover story in this week's issue. john...
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. >> what would drive obama crazy? >> these broad stroke indictments of the last four years -- >> bob, it's something truly serious tonight, it could get ugly. we're hearing all this stuff leaking from the romney camp how he's going to hit him on dishonesty. i don't know how somebody stands on a platform and let them go across with broadsides about integrity being dishonesty. how does he deal with it, if it comes? >> he just answers it honestly. he's come a long way since that debate where he told hillary clinton she was nice enough. he'll be very contained, very self-controlled and i suspect very presidential. my guess is that's part of the whole preparation process the president's gone through. he's not going to let mitt romney get under his skin because he's very conscience of the fact that that would represent a victory for romney. that would become the story of the debate, much as al gore's size became the story of the 2000 debate. >> the bridge of size. thank you. thank you very much. as we go to break, new poll
. >> what would drive obama crazy? >> these broad stroke indictments of the last four years -- >> bob, it's something truly serious tonight, it could get ugly. we're hearing all this stuff leaking from the romney camp how he's going to hit him on dishonesty. i don't know how somebody stands on a platform and let them go across with broadsides about integrity being dishonesty. how does he deal with it, if it comes? >> he just answers it honestly. he's come a long way...
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with unemployment still over 8%, america has a choice between four more years of president obama's failed economic agenda or governor romney's plan to create 12 million new american jobs. when you hear something like that and know that the bipartisan congressional budgetary office has already slated that over the next four years, 12 million jobs are going to be added to our economy, what does it say to you about what the romney campaign wants to bring to an american economic platform? >> i think you bring up the point that all americans are looking for. the two different plans. we're having a hard time figuring out what mitt romney's plan really is. the real substance of it. how are you going to do it, tell us exactly. and that was always the problem with his business plan. we never got to see it as workers we couldn't tell if we could help him or hurt the company. you didn't know. he keeps everything in the dark. private equity you can't tell that. what i'm looking at is growing from the middle out. i think by doing that it goes back to one basic thing. taxation. and people don't like to
with unemployment still over 8%, america has a choice between four more years of president obama's failed economic agenda or governor romney's plan to create 12 million new american jobs. when you hear something like that and know that the bipartisan congressional budgetary office has already slated that over the next four years, 12 million jobs are going to be added to our economy, what does it say to you about what the romney campaign wants to bring to an american economic platform? >>...
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president obama's foreign policy in the middle east. at one point some two dozen capitols, storming embassies. iran closer to a nuclear bomb. you were talking about the bloodshed in syria. what governor romney is saying is rather than make analysis of tactical developments we have to step back and say had the administration been an observer of events rather than a shaper of them. has their foreign policy which had us taking a back step. we talk about a pivot to asia, diminished our policy to protect our interests and those of the allies in the region. >> let me ask about syria. i wasn't sure if governor romney is saying he would have u.s. heavy weapons arms directly to the rebels or he would work through the saudis or others in the region who want to arm the rebels. how is he different. >> what governor romney said is if we don't reach out and find the responsible and moderate forces within the opposition movement, they would be left stranded alone and isolated -- >> hillary clinton had meeting after meeting -- you know the secretary of
president obama's foreign policy in the middle east. at one point some two dozen capitols, storming embassies. iran closer to a nuclear bomb. you were talking about the bloodshed in syria. what governor romney is saying is rather than make analysis of tactical developments we have to step back and say had the administration been an observer of events rather than a shaper of them. has their foreign policy which had us taking a back step. we talk about a pivot to asia, diminished our policy to...
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this video we have seen before, covered extensively by the media five years ago, when obama first ran for office. those details did not stop the daily caller and some others from asserting the tape would shake up the campaign. >> people ask me whether they thought raves the reason the response was so slow. i said, well, no this administration was color blind in its incompetence. but, but everyone here knows that the disaster and the poverty happened long before the hurricane hit. >> and then the "huffington post" released what they consider their own bombshell tape, showing paul ryan at what his campaign says was on open forum, this was just last year, 2011. ryan's remarks are now being compared to romney's 47% comment. >> the good news is survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center-right 70/30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> and republicans are seizing on what vice president joe biden said at a campaign event in north carolina. that set off another war of words. >> how th
this video we have seen before, covered extensively by the media five years ago, when obama first ran for office. those details did not stop the daily caller and some others from asserting the tape would shake up the campaign. >> people ask me whether they thought raves the reason the response was so slow. i said, well, no this administration was color blind in its incompetence. but, but everyone here knows that the disaster and the poverty happened long before the hurricane hit. >>...
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he's taken us forward from the bush years. we don't want to go back to the policies that got us to this point in the first place. when mitt romney said he wanted detroit to go bankrupt let the auto industry go bankrupt, our people heard that. one of eight jobs in ohio are connected to the auto industry and all the related industry that is feed into it. >> congresswoman marcy kaptur and catherine crier, i have to leave it there. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> is paul ryan starting to feel the heed? just two days before his do-or-die showdown with joe biden. check this out. >> by kiting taxes, with the big tax cut? >> those are yours, not mine. >> thank you very much, sir. >> that was kind of strange. >> yeah take off that microphone. good luck trying that with joe biden on thursday. >>> plus big bird is still flying high and there are signs now that the great yellow friend is getting under mitt romney's skin. >>> and the inside story of the family intervention inside the romney campaign. it's a real shocker,
he's taken us forward from the bush years. we don't want to go back to the policies that got us to this point in the first place. when mitt romney said he wanted detroit to go bankrupt let the auto industry go bankrupt, our people heard that. one of eight jobs in ohio are connected to the auto industry and all the related industry that is feed into it. >> congresswoman marcy kaptur and catherine crier, i have to leave it there. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you....
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i don't know a single small businessman or woman who believes that the next four years under obama will be good. i don't know a single small businessman or woman who expects to hire a lot more people if obama wins the election. i travel a lot. these are not conspiracy theories. they get up every day and look at taxes and what is the cost of the health insurance and the market going to be like. and they are all overwhelmly -- they have surveyed their members. >> i want to advance this from the economy to the aftermath of the debate. the cover of the noe"the new yo mitt romney eastwooding, debating an empty chair. simple question. what happened? this couldn't have been the game plan for this president to go in and by all accounts underperform against a guy whose back was against the wall, who faced a make or break debate. >> look, david, it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappointed in the expectations that he has for himself. but, look, i think part of that was because as i said earlier we met a new mitt romney. we met a mitt romney that wanted to walk away from
i don't know a single small businessman or woman who believes that the next four years under obama will be good. i don't know a single small businessman or woman who expects to hire a lot more people if obama wins the election. i travel a lot. these are not conspiracy theories. they get up every day and look at taxes and what is the cost of the health insurance and the market going to be like. and they are all overwhelmly -- they have surveyed their members. >> i want to advance this from...
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now, it claimed to 10% in october of that year before then starting to fall. last month unemployment dropping among adult men and women and also in teens, but it's still a whopping 23.7% for that last group. now, here is how we break it down. it dropped among whites, african-americans, hispanics, and asians, but unemployment among african-americans and hispanics remains well above the national average. joining me now is cbs contributor ron insana who is also host of a syndicated radio program called the market scoreboard report and with us from waution, jared bernstein, former economist for joe biden. it's good to have you here. jared, i start with you. as we look at these numbers, is this a true game changer for the president? >> it certainly helps. i mean, this month's decline in the unemployment rate that you have been talking about from 8.1% down to 7.8%, that's the good kind of decline in unemployment because it came from a lot more people getting jobs. if you recall back last month, i was sitting in this chair telling you that the decline in unemployment
now, it claimed to 10% in october of that year before then starting to fall. last month unemployment dropping among adult men and women and also in teens, but it's still a whopping 23.7% for that last group. now, here is how we break it down. it dropped among whites, african-americans, hispanics, and asians, but unemployment among african-americans and hispanics remains well above the national average. joining me now is cbs contributor ron insana who is also host of a syndicated radio program...
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for at least a few years now, we have been told how president obama is just alienating wall street. billionaires have got it so rough. they are going to turn against him to make sure president obama is not reelected. now that the election is just 35 days away and president obama, you got to admit looks pretty strong in the polls, some of these billionaires are beginning to whine a little bit. they don't like the environment of what's happening. here's sam zell, listen to this. >> how the, quote, 1% or the 10%, the top earners moved ahead of everybody. i wonder if there's any correlation between while they were moving ahead, the rest of the government was subsidizing, subsidizing more and more people. i think they are disincentive vised by if you don't pay for health care, that's another thing you don't have to worry about. >> he sounds like he could be sitting at the mitt romney fundraiser. his disdain of the 47% is the same as mitt romney's. he's not the only algart complaining. leon cooperman, this hedge fund manager and former obama supporter, said this, you know, the largest and
for at least a few years now, we have been told how president obama is just alienating wall street. billionaires have got it so rough. they are going to turn against him to make sure president obama is not reelected. now that the election is just 35 days away and president obama, you got to admit looks pretty strong in the polls, some of these billionaires are beginning to whine a little bit. they don't like the environment of what's happening. here's sam zell, listen to this. >> how the,...
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i don't know a single small businessman or woman, who believes the next four years under obama will be good. i don't know a single small businessman who expects to hire a lot more people if obama wins the election. i travel a lot. these are not conspiracy theories or right-wingers, people look at how are they going do pay their taxes, what's the market going to be like? they're all overwhelmingly, look at the national federation of independent businesses, they go out and survey their members. >> i want to bring this advance this from the economy to the aftermath of the debate. the new cover of the new yorker gets a laugh and makes a serious point at the same time as we put it up on the screen and that is governor romney debating a chair. eastwooding in effect. robert gibbs, before i get hilary's take on this, simple question -- what happened? this couldn't have been the game plan for this president to go in and by all accounts, underperform against a guy whose back was against a wall, who faced a make-or-break debate. >> it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappo
i don't know a single small businessman or woman, who believes the next four years under obama will be good. i don't know a single small businessman who expects to hire a lot more people if obama wins the election. i travel a lot. these are not conspiracy theories or right-wingers, people look at how are they going do pay their taxes, what's the market going to be like? they're all overwhelmingly, look at the national federation of independent businesses, they go out and survey their members....